Ú¸»ó¿øÀÇ¿øµé ¡°ºÏÇÑ ºñÇÙÈ­ Ç¥¸í ½Å·Ú ¸ø ÇØ¡± ±¸Ã¼ÀûÀÎ °á°ú¸¦ º¸±â Àü±îÁö ºÏÇÑÀÇ ÀÌ·± ŵµ¸¦ ½Å·ÚÇÒ ¼ö ¾ø´Ù´Â °ÍÀÌ´Ù. ¹Ì »ó¿øÀÇ¿øµéÀº ±èÁ¤ÀºÀÌ ¹àÇû´Ù´Â ºñÇÙÈ­ ÀÇÁö¿¡ ȸÀÇÀûÀÎ ¹ÝÀÀÀ» º¸¿´´Ù. ±¸Ã¼ÀûÀÎ °á°ú¸¦ º¸±â Àü±îÁö ºÏÇÑÀÇ ÀÌ·± ŵµ¸¦ ½Å·ÚÇÒ ¼ö ¾ø´Ù´Â °ÍÀÌ´Ù. ¾Æ·¡´Â VOA º¸µµ ³»¿ëÀÌ´Ù. ÄÚ¸® °¡µå³Ê »ó¿øÀÇ¿øÀº ±èÁ¤ÀºÀÇ ÇÙ¹«±â Æ÷±â ÀÇÇâÀÌ ±¸Ã¼ÀûÀÎ °á°ú·Î À̾îÁ®¾ß ÇÑ´Ù°í °­Á¶Çß½À´Ï´Ù. [³ìÃë: °¡µå³Ê ÀÇ¿ø] ¡°Kim Jong Un is the master of propaganda. He understands marketing, and so until we see the concrete results of his willingness to give up his nuclear program, I don¡¯t think this is any different necessarily than many times when his father and his grandfather tried to fool the people around the globe with his actions¡¦¡± »ó¿ø ¿Ü±³À§ µ¿¾ÆÅ ¼ÒÀ§¿øÀåÀ» ¸Ã°í ÀÖ´Â °¡µå³Ê ÀÇ¿øÀº 8ÀÏ ¡®VOA¡¯ ±âÀÚ¿Í ¸¸³ª ±èÁ¤ÀºÀÌ ÇÙ¹«±â¸¦ Æ÷±âÇÒ ¿ëÀÇ°¡ ÀÖ´Ù°í ¾Ë·ÁÁø µ¥ ´ëÇØ, ±èÁ¤ÀºÀº ¡®¼±ÀüÀÇ ´ÞÀÎ(master of propaganda)¡¯À¸·Î ¸¶ÄÉÆÃÀ» ÀÌÇØÇÏ°í Àִٸ鼭 ÀÌ·¸°Ô ¸»Çß½À´Ï´Ù. ÀÌ¾î ±¸Ã¼ÀûÀÎ °á°ú°¡ ³ªÅ¸³ª±â Àü±îÁø °ú°Å ±èÁ¤ÀÏ°ú ±èÀϼºÀÌ Àü ¼¼°èÀεéÀ» ¿©·¯ Â÷·Ê ¼ÓÀÌ·Á°í ÇßÀ» ¶§¿Í º°´Ù¸¦ ¹Ù°¡ ¾ø´Ù°í ÁöÀûÇß½À´Ï´Ù. ±èÁ¤ÀºÀÌ ÇÙ¹«±â¸¦ Æ÷±âÇÒ ¿ëÀÇ°¡ ÀÖ´Ù°í ³ª¼± ¹è°æ°ú °ü·ÃÇؼ­´Â ´ëºÏ Á¦Àç°¡ ÀÛµ¿Çϱ⠽ÃÀÛÇ߱⠶§¹®À̶ó°í Æò°¡Çß½À´Ï´Ù. [³ìÃë: °¡µå³Ê ÀÇ¿ø] ¡°Clearly, the sanctions are beginning to work. Kim Jong Un is beginning to feel the pressure from not just United States sanctions but United Nations sanctions, nations around the globe for denying and depriving illicit of Pyeongyang and their luxury goods and other items. So he is beginning to feel the effects of it¡¦¡± ¹Ì±¹ÀÇ Á¦Àç»Ó ¾Æ´Ï¶ó À¯¿£ µî Àü ¼¼°èÀû ´ëºÏ Á¦Àç·Î ÀÎÇØ ºÏÇÑ Á¤±Ç¿¡ »çÄ¡Ç°°ú ´Ù¸¥ Ç°¸ñµéÀÌ À¯ÀÔµÇÁö ¾Ê¾Æ ±èÁ¤ÀºÀÌ ¾Ð¹ÚÀ» ´À³¢±â ½ÃÀÛÇß´Ù´Â ¼³¸íÀÔ´Ï´Ù. ±×·¯³ª ¹Ì±¹Àº °ú°Å¿¡µµ °°Àº ÀÏÀ» °Þ¾ú´Ù¸ç ±èÁ¤ÀºÀÌ ¾à¼ÓÀ» ¾î±æ Àǵµ¶ó¸é ¿©±â¿¡ ¶Ç´Ù½Ã ¼Ó¾Æ¼­´Â ¾È µÈ´Ù°í °Åµì °­Á¶Çß½À´Ï´Ù. [³ìÃë: °¡µå³Ê ÀÇ¿ø] But the challenges are of course known that we¡¯ve been in this course before and we can¡¯t be fooled again if he decides to renege on these promises¡¦¡± ¹Ì-ºÏ ´ëÈ­ Àü¸Á°ú °ü·ÃÇؼ­´Â ±èÁ¤ÀºÀÌ ºñÇÙÈ­¿¡ ÁøÁöÇØÁú ¶§±îÁö ´ëÈ­°¡ ¾î¶»°Ô µÉ Áö µµÀúÈ÷ ¾Ë ¼ö ¾ø´Ù¸ç, ±èÁ¤ÀºÀÌ ºñÇÙÈ­¿¡ ÁøÁöÇØÁú ¶§ ´ëÈ­¸¦ ½ÃÀÛÇÒ ¼ö ÀÖ´Ù°í ¹àÇû½À´Ï´Ù. [³ìÃë: °¡µå³Ê ÀÇ¿ø] ¡°Our talks, I don¡¯t even know what those are going to be until Kim Jong Un is serious about the denuclearization, and then we can begin to talk¡¦¡± ¸¶¸£ÄÚ ·çºñ¿À ¹Ì±¹ °øÈ­´ç »ó¿øÀÇ¿ø. °øÈ­´ç ÁßÁøÀÎ ¸¶¸£ÄÚ ·çºñ¿À »ó¿øÀÇ¿øÀº ºÏÇÑÀ» ½ÃÇèÇغÁ¾ß°ÚÁö¸¸ µ¿½Ã¿¡ (ºñÇÙÈ­) ÇÕÀÇ¿¡ À̸£±â Àü±îÁö ¹°·¯³ª¼± ¾È µÈ´Ù°í °­Á¶Çß½À´Ï´Ù. [³ìÃë: ·çºñ¿À ÀÇ¿ø] ¡°I hope he is. That would be preferable. No one wants a war. But we will see. We should test it but we should also not back off until it¡¯s reached¡¦¡± ·çºñ¿À ÀÇ¿øÀº À̳¯ ¡®VOA¡¯ ±âÀÚ¿Í ¸¸³ª ±èÁ¤ÀºÀÌ ÁøÁ¤À¸·Î (ÇÙ¹«±â¸¦ Æ÷±âÇÒ ¿ëÀÇ°¡ ÀÖ±æ) ¹Ù¶ó°í ±×°ÍÀÌ ¹Ù¶÷Á÷ÇÏ´Ù¸ç ´©±¸µµ ÀüÀïÀ» ¿øÇÏÁö ¾Ê´Â´Ù°í ¸»Çß½À´Ï´Ù. ÇÏÁö¸¸ ±èÁ¤ÀºÀÌ ¸»ÇÏ´Â ¾î¶² °Íµµ ¹ÏÁö ¾Ê´Â´Ù¸é¼­ ±èÁ¤ÀºÀº ¸Å¿ì À§ÇèÇÑ Àι°À̶ó°í µ¡ºÙ¿´½À´Ï´Ù. ±èÁ¤ÀºÀÌ ºñÇÙÈ­ ´ëÈ­ ÀÇÁö¸¦ º¸ÀÎ Àǵµ¿Í °ü·ÃÇؼ­´Â, ÀÚ½ÅÀº À̼ºÀûÀÎ ¹Ý¸é ¹Ì±¹°ú ¹Ì±¹ÀÇ µ¿¸Í±¹µéÀÌ ºñÀ̼ºÀûÀ̶ó´Â ÀνÄÀ» ±¹Á¦»çȸ¿¡ Á¶¼ºÇØ, ´ëºÏ Á¦À縦 ¾àÈ­½ÃÅ°±â À§ÇÑ ¸ñÀûÀ̶ó°í Ç®ÀÌÇß½À´Ï´Ù. [³ìÃë: ·çºñ¿À ÀÇ¿ø] ¡°I suspect that, I hope I¡¯m wrong, but I think his intentions are to create an international perception that he is being reasonable and the United States and its allies are being unreasonable in order to undermine international sanctions against him¡¦¡± ¶Ç ¹Ì-ºÏ ´ëÈ­ °¡´É¼ºÀ» ³«°üÇÏÁö ¾Ê´Â´Ù¸é¼­, °ú°Å¿¡µµ °°Àº °ÔÀÓÀ» Çß¾ú´Ù°í ¸»Çß½À´Ï´Ù. º¥ Ä«µò ¹Ì±¹ ¹ÎÁÖ´ç »ó¿øÀÇ¿ø. »ó¿ø ¿Ü±³À§ ¹ÎÁÖ´ç °£»çÀÎ º¥ Ä«µò ÀÇ¿øÀº ºÏÇÑÀÌ ºñÇÙÈ­ ´ëÈ­ ¿ëÀÇ°¡ ÀÖ´Ù´Â µ¥ ´ëÇØ °í¹«ÀûÀÎ ½ÅÈ£¶ó°í Æò°¡Çß½À´Ï´Ù. [³ìÃë: Ä«µò ÀÇ¿ø] ¡°I thought it was an encouraging sign, obviously we¡¯ve been down this path before without results but I thought it was an encouraging conversation as related to us and about South Koreans¡¦¡± Ä«µò ÀÇ¿øÀº À̳¯ ¡®VOA¡¯¿¡ ¹Ì±¹Àº °ú°Å¿¡µµ °á°ú ¾øÀÌ ÀÌ·± ±æÀ» °ÅÄ¡±ä ÇßÁö¸¸ ¹Ì±¹, Çѱ¹°ú °ü·ÃÇØ °í¹«ÀûÀÎ ´ëÈ­¿´´Ù°í ¸»Çß½À´Ï´Ù. À̾î Çö ½ÃÁ¡¿¡¼­ ¹Ì±¹ÀÇ ¸ñÇ¥´Â ºÏÇÑÀÇ ±äÀåÀ» ¿ÏÈ­½ÃÄÑ (ÇÙ) µ¿°á¿¡ ´ëÇÑ ÇÕÀÇ°¡ ÀÌ·ïÁö°í, ½ÇÁ¦·Î µ¿°áÀÌ ÀÌ·ïÁö¸é Çѹݵµ ºñÇÙÈ­ ³íÀÇ·Î À̾îÁú ¼ö ÀÖµµ·Ï ÁöÄѺ¸´Â ¼ö¼øÀ» ¹â´Â °ÍÀ̶ó°í µ¡ºÙ¿´½À´Ï´Ù. [³ìÃë: Ä«µò ÀÇ¿ø] ¡°I think, I will tell you what our objectives should be, and that is to ease the tensions in North Korea to get eyes on the ground to make sure that in fact if there is an agreement on the freeze, the freeze is taking place and then to continues these discussions on the denuclearization on the Korean peninsula. According to the reports, Kim Jong Un is interested in making sure his regime is not in jeopardy that¡¯s not our objectives¡¦¡± ÀÌ¾î ±èÁ¤ÀºÀº üÁ¦ ¾ÈÀüº¸ÀåÀ» ¾à¼Ó ¹Þ°í ½Í¾îÇÏ´Â °ÍÀ¸·Î ¾Ë·ÁÁ³Áö¸¸ ÀÌ°ÍÀº ¹Ì±¹ÀÇ ¸ñÇ¥°¡ ¾Æ´Ï¶ó°í ÁöÀûÇß½À´Ï´Ù. ÆÀ ÄÉÀÎ ¹Ì±¹ ¹ÎÁÖ´ç »ó¿øÀÇ¿ø. ÆÀ ÄÉÀÎ ¹ÎÁÖ´ç »ó¿øÀÇ¿øÀº ºñÇö½ÇÀûÀÎ ±â´ë·Î ½ÃÀÛÇÒ ¼ø ¾øÁö¸¸ ¹Ì±¹ÀÌ ³íÀÇ¿¡ Âü¿©ÇÒ °¡´É¼ºÀÌ ÀÖ´Ù¸ç ±àÁ¤ÀûÀ¸·Î Æò°¡Çß½À´Ï´Ù. [³ìÃë: ÄÉÀÎ ÀÇ¿ø]¡±You can¡¯t go into them with unrealistic expectations but I think the possibility of the discussions that the US can be involved in is very positive¡¦¡± ¶Ç ºÏÇÑÀÇ Àǵµ¿Í ÇൿÀÌ ¹«¾ùÀÎÁö ¿¹ÃøÇÏ°í ½ÍÁø ¾Ê´Ù¸ç ÀÌ·± ³íÀǵéÀº ¸Å¿ì »ý»êÀûÀÏ ¼ö ÀÖ´Ù°í ¹àÇû½À´Ï´Ù. ¾Æ¿ï·¯ ¹Ì-ºÏ ´ëÈ­·Î À̾îÁú °¡´É¼º°ú °ü·ÃÇؼ± ºÏÇÑÀº ´õ ÀÌ»ó ³»·Á°¥ °÷ÀÌ ¾ø´Ù¸ç ¹Ì±¹Àº ºÏÇÑ°ú ´ëÈ­ÇØ¾ß ÇÑ´Ù°í °­Á¶Çß½À´Ï´Ù. Å©¸®½º ¸ÓÇÇ ¹ÎÁÖ´ç »ó¿øÀÇ¿øÀº ¹Ì-ºÏ ´ëÈ­°¡ ½ÃÀÛµÈ´Ù¸é ºÏÇÑÀÇ ÁøÁ¤ÇÑ ¸ñÇ¥°¡ ¹«¾ùÀÎÁö ´õ Àß ¾Ë ¼ö ÀÖÀ» °ÍÀ̶ó°í ¸»Çß½À´Ï´Ù. [³ìÃë: ¸ÓÇÇ ÀÇ¿ø] ¡°If the talks happen. I suspect we will get a better indication as to what North Korea¡¯s real objectives are. Obviously, the United States has been clear, we need them to give up their nuclear weapons program¡¦¡± ÀÌ¾î ¹Ì±¹Àº ÀÔÀåÀ» ¸Å¿ì ºÐ¸íÈ÷ ÇØ¿Ô´Ù¸ç, ÀÌ´Â ºÏÇÑÀÌ ÇÙ¹«±â ÇÁ·Î±×·¥À» Æ÷±âÇÏ´Â °ÍÀ̶ó°í °­Á¶Çß½À´Ï´Ù. VOA ´º½º ÀÌÁ¶ÀºÀÔ´Ï´Ù. VOA 2018.03.09 09:10